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On a visit to Williamsburg on Sunday, Republican gubernatorial candidate Rep. Lee Zeldin slammed New York City and the state for its lackadaisical approach to dealing with rising antisemitic crime, and staunchly defended yeshivas in the wake of the Board of Regents’ vote on substantial equivalency standards.

On antisemitic attacks Zeldin said: “This isn’t happening once a month or even once a week. We’re getting tired of seeing this day after day after day. It’s important for all of us to have religious freedom protected, for us to be able to walked these streets, to ride a subway, without fear of being attacked.”


“It’s not just on our streets,” he continued, “but also in our schools where we are being targeted with antisemitism and raw, violent hate. The State Education Dept. was as wrong as it gets… with the vote by the Board of Regents with the vote on substantial equivalency targeting yeshivas that I have been vocally opposed to.”

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“I’m here standing today against that push, and I will remain opposed to it in the future. We all need to stand up for your yeshiva education,” he continued. “The story that is not being told is that inside of yeshivas you have students who are being taught values – values of right and wrong, values of leading a good life and being law abiding and having a family and contributing positively and staying out of trouble. That story isn’t being written.”

Zeldin also touched on his own life story, and the experience of his mother, great-grandfather, and his own growing up.

“My mother was a 4th grade yeshiva teacher right here in Brooklyn,” Zeldin said.” Across generations, my great-grandfather was an Orthodox rabbi right here in Brooklyn. For me, I went through all of grade school, college, law school and 4 years of active duty and I was never once targeted with antisemitism. I couldn’t even tell a story of how other people I knew were targeted. But now, young boys here in Brooklyn can tell you story after story after story of antisemitism on these streets.”

Talking separately to Orthodox Jews on the streets of Williamsburg, Zeldin insisted that steps must be taken to ensure that “people who commit antisemitic attacks are being held accountable.”

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“We have people who are getting released automatically due to cashless bail or lax DAs or lax judges. We need to make sure there are consequences. If you harm somebody else, if you assault another person… because they are Jewish, we have to have zero tolerance,” he said. “We need to identify, confront, and crush antisemitism in every form whenever we see it. There must be no tolerance for it on our streets, no tolerance for it inside our schools, and no tolerance for it inside our government.”

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NYT Attack On Jewish Schools Isn’t Really About Academic Standards, It’s About Punishing Dissent


The Times’ campaign against yeshivas is about much more than teaching math and English. It is a template for attacking all dissenters.


We should all be concerned by The New York Times’ war on yeshivas. The regime’s flagship paper has launched a campaign against New York’s Hasidic Jewish schools, coordinating its reporting and editorial opinions with politicians and officials fighting to further regulate these private religious institutions. It is a political and public relations blitzkrieg that lumps all yeshivas together in order to target them all at once.

There are real problems with some yeshivas. In particular, some are focused on rigorous traditional religious instruction to the neglect of English, math, civics, and other basic subjects. But instead of focusing on specific schools that are failing in this way, the Times chose to launch an attack on yeshivas in general, leading with a sprawling article that often dragged in tangential religious and cultural matters, sometimes of dubious reliability.


For example, the Times devoted a lot of space to the use of corporal punishment in yeshivas. But it conflates allegations of genuine abuse (e.g., a teacher kicking a 4-year-old) with minor physical discipline of the sort that used to be unremarkable, such as rapping a student’s knuckles with a ruler. Notably, there is little hard evidence of systemic abuse, with the paper finding that over the past five years, the NYPD “investigated more than a dozen claims of child abuse at the schools,” but that it “is not clear whether anyone was charged in the incidents.” A few complaints a year is not a lot.

A similar dud is the Times’ report that in some yeshivas, “Secular textbooks are either censored with black marker to blot out images of girls and pigs … or specially printed to omit such content altogether.” This detail seems less about critiquing educational problems and more about highlighting the otherness of Hasidic Jews — is it really relevant that a yeshiva blacked out the names of Christian holidays in a textbook?

Setting aside these irrelevant, prejudicial details (which are especially egregious given the rising violence against Jews, especially Hasidic Jews, in New York), the core of the Times’ case against Hasidic schools is that they are failing to educate students.

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“Hasidic yeshivas, like all private schools in New York, are not required to administer state standardized tests in reading and math, and most do not. But some Hasidic schools give the exams as a condition of receiving public funding. In 2019, when nearly half of all New York students passed the tests, 99 percent of the thousands of Hasidic boys who took the exams failed, a Times analysis found.”

If true, this is very bad. Schools must teach English reading and writing, as well as math. But the Times’ sample may not be representative. The schools looking for extra public funding may not be interchangeable with the rest — indeed, it would be surprising if they were. Furthermore, as the Times eventually informed its readers, there is “no unified Hasidic school system. More than a dozen Hasidic groups each run their own schools.”

The Times’ writers use anecdotes, not data, to argue that the known bad yeshivas, rather than the positive examples they cite, are typical of the rest.

Perhaps these writers are right about this, and maybe almost all yeshivas really are failing their students, but their determination to extrapolate well beyond their evidence is troubling. The decision to go after yeshivas, in general, seems to have been driven by activism. The Times’ story was immediately seized on by politicians and was published just days before the state board of regents voted to impose new regulations on private schools.

This coordinated campaign against these yeshivas’ educational quality also stands out because of the dismal performance of many New York public schools. The districts of Buffalo, Rochester, and Syracuse are particular disasters, all with fewer than than 1 in 4 students managing proficiency in English and math (in some cases, barely 1 in 10). And these numbers are from 2019 before New York schools were closed in response to Covid-19 — and stayed closed long after we knew that children are at minimal risk from the disease.


Oddly enough, many of the paper’s complaints have echoes of conservative arguments about the importance of English in schools and the pitfalls of welfare. If the Times is worried that Hasidic yeshivas are gaming the system to maximize government benefits, wait until its reporters discover the rest of the welfare state.

But at the heart of the matter is the rights of minority communities to live peaceably out of step with the majority. And on this point, the Times’ editorial board gives the game away, arguing for a plan under which the government “allows private schools to operate only when local school boards find that their level of instruction is at least equal to that of local public schools.” Empowering the people who run local public schools to shut down their competition is a very bad idea and goes far beyond what is necessary to ensure that schools are teaching essential subjects such as English and math. That power will be used against religious dissenters.

Thus, we all need to learn from this coordinated attack on yeshivas because we are next. Christian schools and Christian homeschoolers, who both tend to have higher test scores, may not be as vulnerable to charges of academic failure, but this campaign is not just about basic standards for reading, writing, and arithmetic. The education establishment has been taken over by activists pushing radical -, race, and gender ideologies, and they are eager to suppress political and religious nonconformists. They are starting with the Jewish schools, but it is a very short road from there to all religious and private schools.

Look at what leftist educators are already doing in the institutions under their control. They have made LGBT ideology and the narratives of the 1619 project into official dogmas. They are confusing elementary school kids about - and sexuality, helping them transition without parental consent, and teaching children racial essentialism, which makes kids hate themselves and their peers. American universities are even increasingly requiring diversity statements (which is to say, loyalty oaths to leftist ideology) as part of the hiring process.

And the left is coming for the rest of us. For example, Yeshiva University is fighting in court against efforts to force it to violate its religious beliefs and officially recognize an LGBT student group. And the Biden administration is trying to force Christian colleges to put men in women’s dorm rooms and showers.

In this context, the Times’ campaign against Hasidic yeshivas is about much more than teaching math and English. It is a template for how they’re going to attack all dissenters — Jews, Christians, and anyone else — from their new secular orthodoxy.
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Last week, The New York Times published the results of a more than year-long investigation into orthodox Jewish yeshivas in the greater New York City area. Through a mix of data and personal anecdotes, the authors paint a picture of schools that are failing to prepare students to succeed in contemporary America. And, they add, these schools are receiving public dollars while doing so.

Much of the commentary about the story has come from the Jewish community. This makes sense. Members of that community are better positioned to parse the theological issues that animate these schools and to understand the rich texture of Jewish life in the communities in which they operate. But, given that the discussion of these schools has widened to what the state, which is predominately not Jewish, should do, it is important that all of us think about what this means for our education system. I am, admittedly, an Irish Catholic from the Midwest, but here is how I think through these issues.

First, to get this out of the way, is the money. It was inappropriate for the Times to describe, in their headline, that these schools are “flush” with public dollars. They are not. It appears that the bulk of the public funds that the schools receive come from the federal school lunch program (which provides subsidized meals for children in all manner of schools across the country). The other big ticket items are things like funding for student transportation and some childcare subsidies for younger children. When first reading the article, it seems like the state of New York or the federal government is funding these schools directly to provide religious instruction, and they aren’t. The funds are going to ancillary services that are provided to feed and move children around, something that I think all of us agreed should be available to students in public, private, or charter schools.




Second, these schools force us to ask deep questions about what school is for. It seems that the primary objection to these schools is that they are not preparing students to participate in the modern economy because they are not getting the language and math skills needed to conduct business. Multiple references are made to how poor the Hasidic communities are, with the reader expected to connect the dots between poor schooling and poor economic performance. Setting aside the fact that some of the increased poverty rate might be a statistical artifact (Hasidic families are larger, which raises the bar for what is considered poor), what if teaching kids how to make money is not the most important thing to these schools or the families that send their children there?

To my untrained eye, it seems like the communities that operate these schools believe that their most important task in life is to uphold the covenant that their ancestors made with God. They go through great lengths in their diets, their habits, and their routines to ensure that they are following the laws that were passed down to them. It should not surprise us that they want their schools to teach their children these laws, how to interpret them, and how to integrate them into their lives.


It is unclear to me why this is any more or less appropriate of a guiding philosophy of a school than anything else. The cheap observation to make is we seem to be OK with countercultural school environments so long as they take place in a Waldorf school in Marin County, but for some reason the Jewish community is not extended the same assumption of good will.


The deeper point is that we don’t agree on what it means to be educated. Some people think job preparation is the number one mission for schools. Others think it is preparing students to be citizens. Some think it is to cultivate creativity and individuality. Still others want to pass down the store of human knowledge from one generation to the next. All of these are worthy goals, but in a big diverse country like America, different people will prioritize them differently.



Third, is what these schools are doing so unreasonable? Many of those who responded to the Times piece seem baffled why anyone would want their children to spend endless hours each day studying Torah and would think that doing so would be more important than learning traditional academic subjects. I probably would have thought so too, until I opened any book describing the last couple hundred years of western history.

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Morris: Investigation Reveals New York Times Curated Distorted Hit Piece Targeting Hasidic Jews, Leading to Yeshiva Regulation
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The New York Times published a report in late September targeting Hasidic Yeshivas — alleging students “[know] nothing” and grow up “barely [able] to support their own families” — coinciding with a Board of Regents vote to regulate their religious education. However, Breitbart News has learned that the Times omitted relevant information, shunned sources directly involved with the schools, and declined to publish pertinent on-the-record statements, in pursuing the story — resulting in a funhouse mirror hit piece, pressuring the board’s unanimous vote to force state edicts on the religious schools.

Breitbart News has learned the Times did not establish communication relevant to reporting with at least two schools the story is based on — titled, “In Hasidic Enclaves, Failing Private Schools Flush With Public Money” — until days before publication, with request for comment on the final product. Breitbart has identified two instances of relevant sources to the story speaking to the Times and having their statements disregarded. Breitbart has also learned of one instance where the Times accused two schools of the same claim of corporal punishment, and two instances where request for comment was responded to but never published.


Breitbart has reviewed correspondence between the Times and teachers and administrators from various Hasidic Yeshivas from different sects, reviewed class work from a Hasidic Yeshiva, a breakdown of public funding for a Hasidic Yeshiva, and public data, showing the Times obfuscated information to produce a broad story with little bearing on the complex facts of what it is talking about.

Most of the sources who spoke with Breitbart requested their names and identities be concealed.

The New York Times “Investigation”
The Times “investigation” hinges its headline on a case where a school administered a Regents exam in 2019, which students failed. The Times then makes the false claim that the Satmar-sect Hasidic school that took the exam, United Talmudic Academy (UTA), “helps set the tone for other schools in the community, including those run by Bobov, Skver, and Viznitz groups.”


The report is bolstered by statements from former members of the Orthodox community and sources the Grey Lady says are current members, alleging that private Jewish schools are “failing by design,” as “generations of children have been systemically denied a basic education, trapping many of them in a cycle of joblessness and dependency.”

The story — which relies on an astonishing assumption that a community of roughly 40,000 families in Brooklyn alone is engaged in a massive and visible conspiracy to abuse their own children — features former members talking about their personal anecdotes, quoting one, for instance, saying his “biggest fear” is that his sons will stay in the Orthodox community, lamenting, they will “get married and start having kids.”

The Times implies the schools are a tool for control of the communities by the rabbis in leadership, and claims these rabbis also coerce politicians via their “voting bloc.”

The Times adds that these schools have “found ways” of receiving a disproportionate amount of public funding, despite noting that Yeshivas “receive far less per pupil than public schools, and they charge tuition.” The Times is not clear whether the public money going to Yeshivas is granted to be spent at their discretion, or whether it comes in the form of food programs, transportation programs, etcetera.

The story, co-bylined by Education reporter Eliza Shapiro and Metro reporter Brian Rosenthal, claims leaders of the boys’ schools were reached out to “on dozens of occasions over the past year” and have refused to engage with the paper. The Times says representatives of the schools only responded after being presented with a summary of its reporting for comment.


News Not Fit to Print
According to documents reviewed by Breitbart News, and statements provided by schools and individuals referred to in the article, Shapiro and Rosenthal did not connect with relevant parties in the over-year-long period they spent working on this report, and, in at least one case, Shapiro shirked the opportunity to speak with a Hasidic teacher who was communicating with her via email and offering her materials to review.

“Wait can you get me inside a Hasidic Yeshiva or not? Really striking that it’s so hard for reporters if there’s nothing to hide right,” Shapiro barked at an Orthodox Jewish user on Twitter on February 18, 2021.

But according to multiple schools referenced in the article who spoke to Breitbart — one of which hosted Breitbart for an hours-long meeting and allowed Breitbart access to reams of schoolwork — the Times did not make an effort to visit or speak to administrators in researching their story.

Administrators at the school that hosted Breitbart, which is one of the largest in the area, said the Times did come, unannounced, to stand outside and snap photos of children exiting the building, but did not initiate a meeting with that school’s administrators.

Another school named in the article informed Breitbart the Times did reach out to them, but only to ask for clarification as to why the school had multiple corporations, and what they were. The school said no meeting was requested, and no information was requested about schoolwork or curricula, achievement rates of students, or anything pertinent to the thrust of the claims made about the school in the story.


Yochonon Donn, a teacher at a Hasidic Yeshiva, shared correspondence with Breitbart between him and Shapiro, from February 18-21, 2021, where the reporter exits the conversation after she learns Donn’s role.

The conversation begins with Donn informing Shapiro that he is a graduate of a Yeshiva, to which she flippantly requests he “let [her] know” if anyone at his alma mater would talk to her for her reporting. Donn replies that he is skeptical about his former Yeshiva’s willingness to talk to the press, but offers her his children’s textbooks.

“Ah yes, classic move when no one has anything to hide :),” Shapiro replies, referring to the school’s trepidation, before asking what company published the textbooks.

“I’m not sure what you meant by that but I can assure you that the vast majority of Yeshivas outperform public schools,” Donn wrote back, linking to performance data on individual Yeshivas.

“But most Hasidic Yeshivas don’t even offer Regents – it’s not a relevant data point! I’ve done my homework on this issue :),” she responds.

“You’d be surprised to learn that many do! The Yeshiva I attended is a Hasidic Yeshiva and they have a full Regents program. I give a writing class in a different Hasidic Yeshiva and they have a full Regents program. Most do, some don’t,” he writes back.

Following a few more messages back and forth, where Shapiro refers to herself as “the most experienced education reporter in New York City,” and “a serious reporter who doesn’t pull punches,” Shapiro asks, “Wait, are you employed by a Yeshiva…?”

“Well, technically yes since I give a weekly class in English writing in a Yeshiva. But I work full time as a reporter,” Donn answers, referring to his career at a Jewish publication, before Shapiro ends the correspondence with, “Got it thanks”.

The two had no further communication, and Shapiro never reached out to Donn on any other occasion, he told Breitbart News.

Shapiro did not respond to request for comment on the correspondence.

“There was a certain angle that she was looking for, as you can see, this is towards the beginning of investigation, if it took almost two years, this is towards the beginning of it,” Donn told Breitbart. “And you see that, basically, she has her mind made up already about Yeshivas — that they’re not doing Regents, that they don’t have an education.”

A Satmar community leader and representative of “Parents for Educational and Religious Liberty in Schools” (PEARLS) told Breitbart News that he spoke to the Times for over an hour about their story on background, but that they did not use any of the information he shared with them.

After the Times’ article was written and reporters began reaching out to relevant parties for comment, two schools, which had not been previously solicited for information, received emails making the exact same accusation, verbatim, that a former student was alleging corporal punishment took place during his time at the Yeshiva.

The claim, sent within a few days to two different schools from different Hasidic sects, was that a former student was “dragged across the room when he was 11, and that his head hit a locker and started to bleed.”

In both instances, the schools that received emails for comment on the incident were the wrong schools named in the accusation, as Hasidic sects splinter off as they grow but keep similar names. The Times was informed that they confused the schools by both parties, along with denials of the incident by both parties. Breitbart News has reviewed both email chains from both schools with the Times. The Times ultimately pinned the accusation on one school and ran it. The schools involved have requested not to be named in this story.

Both schools also provided additional comment to the Times, to address the rest of the claims leveled at them, but those comments were not published.

One school affiliate reached for comment on the final product addressed a number of false claims in the reporting, and provided corrections, which were not applied. That response to the Times was also provided to Breitbart, and reads in part:

“I reached out to the school administrators … and none of them received your email. As an aside, your conflation and confusion between the names of various schools and their affiliation seem to perhaps be endemic in your overall reporting,” the statement begins, and goes on to explain the fact that as sects splinter off, groups become independent of each other while maintaining similar names.

“I would add that I was also very surprised that your article nowhere mentions the extremely high averages of the Regents scores that Yeshiva students achieve. In fact, the majority of the top 20 slots for highest Regents averages for schools in [New York State], are filled by Yeshivas.

“Your email asking for comment stated ‘our highest priority in preparing this article is to ensure that it is accurate, comprehensive and fair,’ yet you asked for comment only in the late 48 hours of a multi-month process; not early on. That is not called ‘fair’.”

The Times did not take any input from the school for the story before publication.

The full, official statement to the Times from the school was:

Our ‘secular’ studies start as young as pre-school; not at age 8-9 that you incorrectly allege. Secondly, ‘Religious’ or ‘Judaic’ studies include history, geography, language, reading, mathematics, ethics and more[,] so it’s misleading to suggest that those hours of study have no bearing or equivalency to public school education; a definition that is not clearly defined and is currently being changed by the Board of Regents. This is borne out by the fact that the majority of the top 20 slots for highest Regents averages, for schools in NYS, are filled by Yeshivas. Third, a public-school student in NY gets on average $25,000 in taxpayer services outside of the food nutrition programs or locally-funded vouchers. Our students get around $1,000 each per year; a fraction of the $25,000. Our school system is therefore a net money saver for taxpayers based on the low cost and more so based on the outcomes: Yeshiva students are not the ones beating up people every weekend in Brooklyn; they are in fact the victims, and Poverty Rates in the Hasidic community, when adjusted for age and family size, is much more aligned with the rest of society.

Despite claiming to have “reviewed thousands of pages of public records, translated dozens of Yiddish-language documents and interviewed more than 275 people,” none of the statement provided by the school was quoted by the Times.

Another school’s response to the Times, which was also provided to Breitbart, was also ignored. That response pointed out two specific incorrect statements made by the Times, which were not followed up on.

The Times was also apparently not aware of the way public funds are spent in the Yeshivas’ case. A breakdown of funds provided to Breitbart News by a Hasidic Yeshiva shows there is not any money going to religious education. Funds come in the form of child care vouchers to parents, child nutrition programs, student transportation, mandated services such as testing and attendance tracking, and college financial aid, where accreditation allows. The school receives $2,500-$5,000 of funding per student.

Reached for comment by Breitbart, Times spokesperson Melissa Torres denied this reporting, claiming it “contains several false statements and inaccuracies,” and that Shapiro and Rosenthal “spent months seeking to help readers understand what is happening inside these Hasidic Jewish religious schools,” adding that the Times is “confident in the accuracy of our reporting.”

The Times did not provide an example of what in Breitbart’s reporting is “false,” and did not identify any particular “inaccuracies.”

The Times devoted a section of its report to quotes from a group of formerly Orthodox Jews advocating for Yeshiva reform, called “Yaffed,” founded and run by Naftuli Moster.

Yaffed describes itself as being “committed to improving secular education in Haredi & Hasidic schools & Yeshivas — because every child has a right to learn.”

Yaffed’s website claims, “a basic general education should consist of English, Math, Science, Social Studies, and other required subjects,” adding, “we want children to receive a minimum standard of education in the schools they currently attend.”

But a clip posted on Twitter from a May 24 panel called “Let My People Learn,” hosted by Yaffed, shows a stretched definition of “minimum standard of education” — to include “a sound *** education and knowledge of diversity.”



“Part of a well-rounded education includes understanding diversity, understanding different people’s experiences, being able to cope in the world and engage with people of all kinds of experiences, including yourself, your siblings, your children — I think a sound *** education and knowledge of diversity, its part and parcel of a wholesome education. I think the Hasidic community doesn’t get to say that their children are above that, or don’t need access to that,” panelist Chavie Weisberger says, as Moster nods along.


Reached by Breitbart, asking whether Yaffed believes a standard education ought to include “a sound *** education and knowledge of diversity,” Moster distanced himself from Weisberger’s comments — claiming Yaffed did not host the panel, despite a flyer posted on Yaffed’s Facebook page clearly stating it hosted the panel — and reiterated that Yaffed doesn’t “advocate for teaching anything that is explicitly objectionable to Orthodox Judaism,” but supports whatever the law mandates children learn.

Asked if Yaffed supports a strictly classical education to be introduced in Yeshivas, Moster replied without directly addressing the question, saying that Hasidic boys “have never heard the word ‘literature’,” and in another email a few minutes later, insisted they are “intentionally destined to live in poverty and dependence on government assistance.”

Asked whether Yaffed denounces the comments made by Weisberger during the panel he hosted, Moster refused to respond.

“No One’s Keeping You from Learning”
In reviewing documents provided by a Hasidic school, public data, and interviews with teachers and parents, Breitbart has uncovered a markedly different story of what goes on in various Yeshivas than what has been reported in the Times’ “investigation.”

“There are so many skills that go into the type of learning we do that, you know, when girls or boys start in the work field they’re definitely at an advantage when it comes to analytical skills,” Malky, a Satmar mother with three sons at a UTA-affiliated school, told Breitbart News. “I have no desire for my kids to learn less Torah.”

Parents in these communities, by and large, see public school curricula as less rigorous than what their children are currently learning, and, in many cases, a clash with their values — especially the “diversity, equity and inclusion” curriculum currently being implemented in many schools, public and private.

“If you look at the curriculum, it’s full of values that we don’t hold by — whether it’s
L....Q or, you know, talking about *** and *** education in a way that is foreign and frowned upon in our culture,” Malky said in an interview with Breitbart. “Torah is what makes us who we are — it’s a living and breathing text — it’s not something that we’re just studying for the academic factor, you know, it’s who we are,” Malky said.

She emphasized that outside forces attempting to alter or transform religious education, which Jews have been practicing for millennia, will not be accepted by a community with hundreds of thousands of members who reject that change.

“If the government will work with us, we will work with them,” Malky told Breitbart News of reform in Yeshivas. “But the real issue that we have is, this is a nefarious way to input and to softly put on values that we don’t hold by, and we’re going to do everything in our power, whether it means losing billions in government funding, whatever it is, we’re going to do everything in our power to prevent that from infiltrating our community.”

“They may think that they can outsmart us,” she went on, referring to efforts to insert lessons that undermine religious values into Yeshivas. “We have thousands of years of different countries, different governments trying to do that. It’s not going to happen, and the more they push, the more pushback there is.”

“I don’t believe that the government has any place, or say [in Yeshiva education], I think all they’re doing is they’re making [Hasidic] people more committed. Fighting about the issue, and trying to impose education values that are so far removed from everything that we believe in, everything we stand for … these articles, and laws, and trying to force change, it’s literally just going to have the opposite effect,” Malky told Breitbart.

Breitbart met with administrators at a Hasidic Yeshiva in Borough Park, Brooklyn, who provided access to students’ work in “secular” studies. Despite claims by the Times that children in this school are “denied basic education,” Breitbart reviewed reams of assignments and exams showing otherwise.

Breitbart was presented with exams written by students in Grade 5 from the 2021-2022 academic year, showing lessons and proficiency in Social Studies, English essay writing, and Math.

Redacted Yeshiva Assignments by Breitbart News on Scribd



Despite claims by the Times — and Yaffed — that Yeshivas are “trapping” Hasidic people in “a cycle of joblessness and dependency,” a 2013 study by Pew, titled “A Portrait of American Orthodox Jews,” shows that claim has no connection with reality.

The study distinguishes Hasidic Jews from other Orthodox Jews, classifying them as “Haredi” Jews.

Haredi Jews receive a Bachelor’s Degree at a rate of 15%, according to Pew, with the U.S. general public receiving a Bachelor’s Degree at a rate of 19%. Haredi Jews receive Post-Graduate degrees at a rate of 10%, compared with the U.S. general public’s rate of the same 10%.

According to Pew, Haredi Jews earn over $150,000/year at a rate of 24%, compared to the U.S. general population’s rate of 8%. Haredi Jews earn between $100,000-$149,999/year at a rate of 13%, compared with the U.S. general population’s rate of 10%. Haredi Jews earn less than $50,000/year at a rate of 43%, compared with the U.S. general population’s rate of 56%.

A cultural data point in the study showed that Haredi Jews are 64% politically conservative, compared with 38% of the U.S. general population.

And, contrary to the Times’ claim that the religious child rearing process is a system of coercion to keep people trapped in their religion — or, to “wall them off from the secular world,” as the Times put it — Pew found that 52% of Americans who were raised as Orthodox Jews have left Orthodoxy.

“I think it’s absurd, I’ve never heard something more laughable,” Malky said of the idea that Yeshivas function to keep children from leaving the community. “They don’t keep us from studying English or Math or any of those other subjects, they do it. The reality is, when kids start their day at seven, eight o’clock in the morning, and they’re learning heavy subjects that take real brain space, the latter part of the day they’re going to be more tired, less invested, that’s just the reality. But no one’s keeping you from learning these things.”

“You can’t keep anyone from going [away from Orthodoxy]; we try to show our kids the beauty, and the joy, and the meaning in true Torah life, but that’s all we can do,” she continued.

“You know how you feel when Putin slams America, saying America is ‘undemocratic,’ and you think it’s, like, a joke, like, ‘they’re telling us what democracy is about?’ So when they talk about, ‘we’re uneducated;’ we have been the gold standard of public education, going back 2,500 years — this is a matter of public record — we established public education, and now they’re telling us how to run our schools,” Donn told Breitbart, of New York functionaries hectoring the Jewish community about education.

“You read the Times, it’s like you’re talking about a community in a vacuum — you might as well be talking about some small North Korean village — there was absolutely no context to the whole case. It doesn’t talk about the community, it doesn’t talk about, you know, Satmar is known in the Orthodox community as the warmest people, they’re the ones establishing all these charitable organizations for anything you could possibly need, they’re the ones innovating in helping people,” Donn continued.

“This is the tradition they have, and it’s all part of education in the Yeshiva. Every community is a product of their education,” he concluded.

Emma-Jo Morris is the Politics Editor at Breitbart News. Email her at [email protected] or follow her on Twitter.
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NYT פון October 12

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